Xbox Extender vs. MC Extender

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Mark, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. Mark

    Mark Guest

    Why wouldn't you go buy an Xbox and the Xbox extender for $149.99 + $79.99
    vs. spending $299.00 for the Media Center Extender?

    Seems like it would be cheaper to buy an Xbox and adapter.

    Any limitations...none that I read about.....?

    Mark
     
    Mark, Oct 28, 2004
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  2. XBox extender has wired ethernet only, most standalone extenders have
    wireless.
    XBox extender doesn't fit into an AV rack.
    XBox can't be powered on and off via remote control.

    Otherwise, no major differences that I'm aware of.

    Pete
     
    Peter Near [MCE MVP], Oct 28, 2004
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    Phil Taylor Guest

    quality of the TV Out.

    the X225 TV Out quality should be noticably better than the XBox TV Out.

    so thats one vector that may provide justification for purchasing an MCX
    box.
     
    Phil Taylor, Oct 28, 2004
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  4. Not sure what the X225 is (I even did a web search!), but the Xbox w/ a $20
    HD pack can output 720p and 1080i HD video. I don't know if there are
    resolution limitations on the Media Extender itself.

    -Lee
     
    Lee Mychajluk, Oct 28, 2004
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  5. X225 = ATI Xilleon 225 (the chip responsible for video out on MCX set top
    boxes)

    Note that both the MCX set top box and MCX for Xbox support 480i output
    only.
     
    Todd Bowra [MSFT], Oct 28, 2004
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    Jason Tsang Guest

    If you have a wireless bridge of some sort, the xbox can still connect
    wirelessly to a network (and you can use the xbox extender over that
    wireless connection). Keep in mind, wired performance will be better than
    wireless.

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    Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

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    Jason Tsang, Oct 28, 2004
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  7. Right. But to my original point, that's an additional cost for the XBox
    extender. In the standalone MCX, that's included in the package.

    Pete
     
    Peter Near [MCE MVP], Oct 28, 2004
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  8. I just finished a TV shoot for a program airing here in the NE where
    we had both a production extender and a production XBOX kit in the
    studio. During some down time between takes/lunch etc. I ran the same
    content from first one and then the other to the studio Plasma display
    and I can't say that I saw any difference. Maybe my eyes aren't all
    that good.
     
    Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows], Oct 28, 2004
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  9. I have been using a DLink g820 adapter (acess point client/gaming
    adapter) in 108 super g mode with a Dlink 2200 AP in 108 super g mode
    and am getting 0 video dropouts with live TV. this is a dedicated link
    with no computer sharing the traffic. i'm in a pretty saturated 2.4GHz
    zone as well. This has performed flawlessly and the performance is on
    par with wired 100mb Ethernet. far superior to any of my standards
    based G gear and better than my 802.11a gear which every so often
    would drop out.
     
    Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows], Oct 28, 2004
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  10. I am thinking about use the xbox mce extender, and I would also be running a
    laptop over the same network, and at times on the laptop doing some media
    work, do you all think that will make much of a difference in the tv
    quality?

    Brian Mullins
     
    Brian Mullins, Oct 29, 2004
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  11. If you use 802.11g for the Xbox and 802.11b for your laptop, you'll see big
    problems (adding 802.11b devices to 802.11g networks really slows them
    down).

    If you use 802.11a or 802.11g for both the Xbox and your laptop, you
    definitely could see problems. The likelihood of this depends on how far
    your Xbox is from your access point, what you mean by "media" activities,
    what specific activities you're doing on your MCX**, etc.

    **for example - TV playback requires more network bandwidth than music.
     
    Todd Bowra [MSFT], Oct 29, 2004
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  12. Over wired ethernet, no problem. Over wireless, you might see some
    dropped frames.

    Pete
     
    Peter Near [MCE MVP], Oct 29, 2004
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  13. Well then I guess ill just run a cable over to the xbox just to be on the
    safe side. and it would be cheaper anyway, the gaming adapter is amost 80
    and a 50 foot cat 5 cable is only 40, so thats half the price.

    Brian Mullins
     
    Brian Mullins, Oct 29, 2004
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  14. I hope you mean $0.40 - a 50 ft cat 5 cable shouldn't cost you $40 - I buy
    cable 1000 ft at a time for ~$40
     
    Todd Bowra [MSFT], Oct 29, 2004
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    Phil Taylor Guest

    it would be interesting to compare an XBox with and without the enhanced
    Focus chip. its hard to tell from the specs, but that chip does look closer
    to the X225 than the original TV Out part. note the Focus chip didnt start
    shipping until Q3 '03.
     
    Phil Taylor, Oct 29, 2004
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    Jason Tsang Guest

    There are even Xboxes' with a xcalibur video chip (those Xboxes seem to be
    manufacturered in 2004).

    As a result, there are three video out chips that could be in the XBox

    Conexant
    Focus
    xcalibur

    Anyone know which one is the best?

    --
    Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

    Find out about the MS MVP Program -
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
     
    Jason Tsang, Oct 29, 2004
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    Jeff Griffin Guest

    And on a related topic how to tell them apart... I was thinking of picking
    up a used X-Box to use as an extender so knowing which one is best and how
    to tell them apart would be a definate help.

    Jeff Griffin
    Windows XP Media Center Edition MVP
    www.thegreenbutton.com
     
    Jeff Griffin, Oct 29, 2004
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  18. Really? I was just looking at radioshack.com, where should I buy one? They
    all do the same thing.

    Brian Mullins
     
    Brian Mullins, Oct 29, 2004
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    Jeff Griffin Guest

    Jeff Griffin, Oct 29, 2004
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    Nigel Barker Guest

    Are you sure about that? The s-video & RGB output of the Xbox is pretty damn
    good compared to the TV-out of any normal graphics card.
     
    Nigel Barker, Oct 29, 2004
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