XP "genuine advantage" Big Brother nightmares

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by xp ?, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. I know. :) But it's good to keep mentioning it, so that people remember
    and disable it.

    I have automatic updates set because I use OneCare, and in the absence
    of that setting, it flips out, and I have to live with a red icon.

    I compromise by checking Microsoft Update regularly to see what's new.
    If it's all good, I let Automatic Updates do its thing.

    Of course, if I slip up, the OneCare firewall (ironic, isn't it, that
    it's a Microsoft product?) won't let it out, and then I'll just use HJT
    to kill it again.

    Rhonda Lea Kirk

    Insisting on perfect safety is for people
    without the balls to live in the real world.
    Mary Shafer Iliff
    Rhonda Lea Kirk, Jun 19, 2006
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    DanS Guest

    (I guess I'll chime in at this part of the thread for no real reason.)

    That is a great attitude, as how it should be.

    My original post in this thread.....

    '....some are prone to just spitting forth the scritpted M$ BS that they
    would like us to come to believe wholesale.'

    So the biggest thing about the whole situation is NOT just the comment
    from above.

    I'm not sure if it was this thread or another, but a question was asked
    about removing WGA and whatever MVP replied.....'It can not be removed.'

    THAT, my friends, is the problem. It has been proven, talked about,
    argued about, etc. (to death none the less), yet this one person STILL
    replies with the M$ propaganda.
    DanS, Jun 20, 2006
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    Alias Guest

    They're the same sh!t with a different smell.

    Alias, Jun 20, 2006
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    DanS Guest

    The whole deal, it doesn't matter.

    My problem with WGA is not WGA itself. It was the way M$ deployed the
    'WGA Notifications' portion that I don't agree with. M$ described WGA an
    'Opt-In' program early-on. That should mean there's an easy 'Opt-Out'

    The M$ response to innocent people that did not know the XP version on
    the PC they just bought, either second-hand, or from seemingly reliable
    computer shops, who have no recourse when these places are no longer
    around, is to pay M$ $100 for XP Home 'Genuine Advantage Kit' or $150 for
    the Pro version. Hell, you can get lower prices from places online.

    People that willingly have and use pirated versions of XP are not
    bothered by these annoyances.

    So what is WGA really doing ?
    DanS, Jun 21, 2006
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    DanS Guest

    Yes, and the people getting hit with notifications are the one's that were
    un-aware of the status of their XP license.
    DanS, Jun 21, 2006
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    Tom Willett Guest

    It's also doing false *positives* with legal people, just like WGA is doing.

    Tom Willett, Jun 21, 2006
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    kurttrail Guest

    Nobody agreed to follow the BS of a OEM Licensing Rep. Their CLAIM
    isn't worth crap.
    The real solution would be to dump this malware, not having to jump
    through hoops because MS's copy-protection is flawed.

    Kurt Kirsch
    Self-anointed Moderator
    "It'll soon shake your Windows
    And rattle your walls
    For the times they are a-changin'."
    kurttrail, Jun 22, 2006
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    Haro Guest

    Not to mention that the fact that microsoft's WGA tool may eventually disable
    possibly illegal copies of Windows, this in it self could allow hackers to
    bypass microsofts control over the WGA tool and cause widespread windows XP
    failures. That would cause massive disruptions and even big brother might
    have a nightmare.
    Basically, its too risky as a single security flaw could open the door for a
    virtual power switch on all WGA patched computers.
    Haro, Jun 29, 2006
  9. It is really easy to solve this with a simple phone call to ms support. Took
    me about 5 minutes...

    Good luck!
    David Bennett, Jun 29, 2006
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    ºAliasº Guest

    And how, exactly, did the "solve" it?

    ºAliasº, Jun 29, 2006
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    Noel Paton Guest

    MS have denied categorically any capability to do this, either now or in the

    Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

    Nil Carborundum Illegitemi


    Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    Noel Paton, Jul 2, 2006
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    Alias Guest

    And Microsoft *always* tells the truth like saying that WGA is a
    "critical update".

    Alias, Jul 2, 2006
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    Noel Paton Guest

    I know, I know.... I totally agree that WGA should NOT have been 'pushed' as
    a Beta, and should NOT be 'pushed' as a Critical Update. IMHO, Critical
    Updates should be limited to those with security implications for the user -
    not revenue implications for MS.

    They have also stated that come final EOL for XP, they will disable
    Activation (and presumably WGA also).
    Since XPSP3 is planned for the second half of next year, that isn't going to
    be for a few years yet.
    (that's going to be a fun time - I believe that SP1 for Vista was planned
    for about the same time?? This may have slipped back to early 2008, though.)
    I would expect that WGA (and IE7) will be part of SP3 - so you can work out
    for yourself the consequences in terms of support.
    It may be this that the various web articles are referring to when talking
    about WGA being a 'required download'??

    Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

    Nil Carborundum Illegitemi


    Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    Noel Paton, Jul 2, 2006
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    Alias Guest

    If SP3 has WGA, I won't be installing it. I have no use for IE in any of
    its flavors as I use Firefox. The only time I used to use IE was to go
    to Windows update because you can't go there with Firefox. Once I
    reinstall Windows to get rid of WGA completely, I will set AU to
    "download but let me decide when and what to install" and never install
    WGA again. I know my copy of Windows is genuine and I don't need spyware
    on my machine to confirm it.

    Alias, Jul 2, 2006
  15. In that case Search will reveal a bounty of WGA on your computer
    waiting to be installed. If you don't want that, set AU not to download -
    just to check and tell you when updates are available, or turn it off.
    Michael Jennings, Jul 2, 2006
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    Alias Guest

    Good tip, thanks.

    Alias, Jul 2, 2006
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    mm Guest

    mm, Apr 5, 2009
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