XP plug-in

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by ric, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. ric

    ric Guest

    hi,

    i want to apply a 3rd party XP plug-in to a dv edit software Adobe Premiere
    3. the software is now Vista compatible, so i can run it on my Dell Vista,
    but the plug-in is still only XP compatible

    can i therefore create a virtual XP o/s through Virtual PC, so that the
    plug-in thinks it's being run on XP please?

    or will VPC automatically detect the XP plug-in and allow it to function?

    many thanks

    R
     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  2. ric

    ric Guest

    ps. i also have an XP upgrade disc i used several years ago - presumably also
    VPC would allow me to run this on Vista?

    R
     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  3. ric

    David B. Guest

    Vista has nothing to do with your upgrade disk, if you want to use your XP
    upgrade license on a VM, you have to have a qualifying OS (Win 98, ME etc)
    to prove you can use the upgrade license, doesn't matter if your installing
    on a hardware PC or a virtual one, the license agreement still applies,
    Windows Vista is not a qualifying product for your XP Upgrade, nor will the
    XP installation in your VM even know it's there.
     
    David B., Nov 6, 2008
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  4. ric

    Bo Berglund Guest

    If the dv plugin has something to do with video editing and effects
    you may be disappointed by the capabilities of the virtual machine
    graphics card. It is a 4 Mb S3 Trio-64 video graphics emulation and it
    does not support 24 bit color, nor can you install DirectX.

    A virtual computer is a totally separate PC so whatever runs in it
    will see the operating system inside the virtual machine only so in
    this case it sees XP.

    There are other limitations also, for example the virtual machine
    cannot see any USB devices because no USB subsystem is emulated in
    it....

    And concerning your additional posting:
    An XP upgrade CD coming with a computer is not licensed to be used
    inside a virtual machine and most likely it will not work if it is
    BIOS locked like many of them are. You need a legitimately purchased
    retail CD and license for the virtual machine...
     
    Bo Berglund, Nov 6, 2008
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  5. ric

    ric Guest

    ok thanks

     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  6. ric

    ric Guest

    thanks Mark - this is totally new tech to me :-o

    ok for Vista/XP; 1GB Ram (or half for xp); 4.5GB HardDisk
    S3 Trio?
    ah, so i need to buy a new copy of XP o/s cd?
    i see

    wow: this is Dr Who-ville [lol]

    did a dummy run on Virtual PC 2007 which went through the motions of setting
    up a virtual hard drive for me, at which point i exited: can i elect to
    'store' the virtual XP system on an external hard drive, please?

    in which case i could also store Adobe Premiere 3 on there?

    many thanks

    R
     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  7. ric

    ric Guest

    oops

    all i want to do is run the xp plug-in

    well, seeing as Premiere 3 is now Vista compatible, i suppose there's
    nothing for it but to install it in the Vista and see if the plug-in likes it?

    it's either that or acquiring an entire XP pc (software-fast enough) to run
    the plug-in?

    thanks

    R
     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  8. ric

    ric Guest

    :


    Thanks again Bo

    honestly don't know what the consequences would be running Abobe Premiere 3
    through the virtual 4 Mb S3 Trio-64 video graphics card?

    am not using HD or 3D graphics, just home movie type footage - the main
    drain is always on the CPU with big dv file playback, so there wouldn't be an
    issue there (AMD64/Athlonx2)

    this is why i am attempting to relocate the dv editing from my old XP P4 to
    the newer Vista AMDx2

    R
     
    ric, Nov 6, 2008
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  9. ric

    Melelina Guest

    Why does it support 32 bit color (and 16 bit) but not 24?

    Also, why does the monitor appear to be running at 75hz? It is an LCD that
    is capable of only 60hz.
     
    Melelina, Nov 7, 2008
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  10. ric:

    There is another way of having two operating systems on a single physical
    computer; multi-booting. It is mot as convenient as using a virtual machine
    because you have to reboot in order to switch between the OS's. But if you need
    to use XP only occasionally, it might be a workable solution for you.

    Of you do this route I would recommend a 3rd party boot manager such as the
    excellent (and inexpensive) BootIt NG.

    Just as with a virtual machine, you need a valid license for each OS.
     
    David Wilkinson, Nov 7, 2008
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  11. The screen Hz doesn't really matter, it gets the actual rate from
    DirectX. You can change it in the VM also.

    Why no 24bit, there was really no need for it. Windows supports 16
    and 32bit just fine, those were are still are the primary OSes VPC was
    designed for.
    It's only now that Linux OSes are defaulting to 24b and causing
    problems.
    VPC also doesn't support 15b color.
     
    Steve Jain [MVP], Nov 7, 2008
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  12. ric

    Bo Berglund Guest

    The frame rate is really of no importance for LCD panels. It was a big
    issue for CRT screens since the flicker tired the eyes if the frame
    rate was too low. But LCD screens do not flicker anyway...
    And on top of this the VPC video driver is *emulated* and the video
    ends up in a window on your ordinary display. So you need not worry.

    Concerning the 24 bit color issue your guess is as good as mine...
    It is a fact though that when the Linux installers switced to
    defaulting to 24 bit color it caused a big impact here because there
    was a lot of extra posts concerning the unintelligible screens shown
    in VPC whan tryiong to installa Linux distro...
     
    Bo Berglund, Nov 7, 2008
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  13. ric

    ric Guest

    postscript

    in fact have abandoned the Vista Athlonx2 VPC 'fix' for my xp problem and
    will chug on in Pentium 4. P4 renders perfect dv's but has a cpu-chore
    playing them back; so i can watch P4-authored avi's on Vista; meanwhile i can
    press ahead with the dv/xp plug-in filter on the P4.

    problem solved

    (i hope) :-o

    lol/thanks

    Ric
     
    ric, Nov 7, 2008
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