XP Pro and Vista Issues...

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Emerson, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. Emerson

    Emerson Guest

    So is it me, or do you have to be a computer programmer, and someone with 20
    years of networking experiance, just to create a simple home network with
    windows?

    I have my Vista machine, and my XP Pro machine.

    The vista can find, view, and make changes to the folders and drives i have
    shared on the XP Pro machine.

    The XP Pro machine can see the computer on the network, but cant access. I
    always get the "acess is denied" error.

    I have set all the file sharing settings to on, and the password settings to
    on. I have done everything that the other threads have said to do. I have set
    the permissions to on and allow for all, and yet, i still get the access
    denied. I have even tried re-naming the network, and re-running the
    networking wizard on the XP Pro machine... STILL i get the acess denied
    error....

    Why is it the same problem with every version of windows that comes out...
    that one can do what you want it to do, but the other just cant...

    any ideas... anyone? I really need this to work.
     
    Emerson, Nov 14, 2006
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  2. Emerson

    sookey61 Guest

    Same problems here - unable to share folders (even after trying to share the
    root drive on the Vista machine - HA!), can't access xp pro printer from
    Vista laptop. Wireless network keeps trying to have each machine perform as
    gateway (never had a gateway computer with my wireless home network and was
    confounded when "internet gateway" connection showed up in network properties
    on all three of my computers). None of the machines will hold the workgroup
    name now - it is like Vista is reaching out to all the other computers on the
    network and messing up the settings. Nothing I do as administrator stays the
    way I set it - and while I realize that this is a "safety feature" it is
    annoying. I have a trusted program I want to run, and when I set it to run
    in msconfig, Vista tells me I can't, and keeps shutting it down. The
    information provided doesn't tell you what the problem is, or even how to fix
    it (has anyone tried to get their startup programs to run using Defender???
    I finally disabled it and still have patchy results). What really bothers me
    are the network settings, though, and how they seem to be magically changing
    on their own. I am ready to just go back to XP and forget about Vista, no
    matter how good it would be if it actually did what was promised. I expect a
    bumpy ride with a beta, but this operating system seems to have a mind of its
    own. It is too complicated for those without real computing experience, but
    doesn't give those of us with a great deal of experience any real latitude to
    configure our systems. Sorry for rambling, but I've been saving up for two
    weeks (after losing my investment in the Office beta, as well - should've
    made a backup disk!)
     
    sookey61, Nov 17, 2006
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  3. Emerson

    Guest

    I feel your pain, I have the exact same condition. I cant't share a
    printer on the vista machine either. I have tried a bunch of
    suggestions posted in this forum and others to no avail. My home
    network is pretty simple, a linksys router with two xp machines and
    one vista all wired, nothing wireless. I've been working with windows
    since 3.1 and every release and has been a royal pain in the ass from
    a networking perspective. Maybe some day they will get it right.
     
    , Nov 17, 2006
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  4. Emerson

    Guest

    I downloaded a copy of Network Magic, installed it just on the VISTA
    machine and now everything works like a champ, file and print sharing.
    Hopefully a solution will be posted or MS will issue a patch before
    the 30 day trial expires on Network Magic.


    On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:54:15 -0600,
     
    , Nov 20, 2006
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  5. Emerson

    sookey61 Guest

    I ended up going into my XP machine and fiddling with the printer settings,
    uninstalling and re-installing the printer, and noticed that the Vista port
    settings had the microsoft document printer set as default. I went back to
    my vista machine and made certain the HP printer was set as default, and
    printer pooling was then able to be enabled on the XP machine. The
    networking settings are very confusing, especially since I can't use my Intel
    WCU. There are so many "discovery" settings and also installing TCP/IP v6,
    that if MS has not fixed this in the RTC release, there will be a lot of
    unhappy consumers out there (ones who don't have the years of computer
    experience - or the courage [stupidity?] to install a new OS) some of us
    have.
     
    sookey61, Nov 20, 2006
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  6. After doing a few installs of Vista, I think I have figured this out.
    On a clean install Vista works with XP Pro and Home machines in terms
    of file/print sharing. If you upgrade a XP PC to Vista (which
    happened in the initial problem below) it will not be able to share
    files and printers with other XP PCs unless you uninstall/reinstall
    the file and print sharing service on the PC upgraded to Vista.





    On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:41:53 -0600,
     
    VistaIsNotNetworkFriendly, Nov 27, 2006
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  7. Emerson

    hydro1956 Guest

    Having sharing allowed and all the other required share/network settings
    correct in Vista and XP machines I could not access Vista shared
    foldews/printers from XP machines, however vice-versa I could. Now, after
    three days I found the solution:

    My Visata machine came with McAfee antivirus preloaded. Both the Windows and
    McAfee firewalls were on. As soon as I disabled the McAfee firewall the
    network sharing worked as intended!

    Doing a little follow-up research, I then turned off Windows firewall and
    re-enabled the McAfee firewall, as well as changed the security level setting
    in McAfee. At this point I was back to the "no-access" problem so I disabled
    McAfee firewall and re-enabled Windows firewall. The network worked like a
    carm once again. Now I assume there is an exception check box like "Allow
    network folder/pinter sharing" in McAfee's firewall like there is in windows
    firewall if you are wanting to use McAfee's firewall instead. Also, this may
    be the same issue if you have some other another firewall enabled.
     
    hydro1956, Feb 3, 2007
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  8. Emerson

    Kevin O'Neil Guest

    Thanks. This worked - however, out of curiosity, let's say that you wanted to use the Mcafee firewall and turn off the Windows firewall (I have Mcafee Security Center installed on both my XP desktop as well as my Vista laptop). What would you need to configure on the Mcafee firewall(s) to get that to work?
     
    Kevin O'Neil, Feb 20, 2011
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