XP Pro Virtual Machine on XP Pro host

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by John Z, Jul 24, 2004.

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    John Z Guest

    If I am installiing an XP Pro on a host machine running XP Pro, do I need separate registration keys or can I activate the guest OS using the same registration key as the host?

    Thanks,
     
    John Z, Jul 24, 2004
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  2. Yes. Each virtual machine is considered a different real machine, so you
    need 1 license for each installation

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    separate registration keys or can I activate the guest OS using the same
    registration key as the host?
     
    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Jul 24, 2004
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    John Z Guest

    Thanks for the reply. Sounds like an expensive proposition for an individual developer. I liked the idea of a clean VM to test new installations on but not at $120+ a pop! It seems to me that, since the connectivity of VPC is limited (no USB devices requiring drivers, etc. that there is limited independent operation of the VM and the host. Therefore a more reasonable approach would be for the VM XP activation to "reach through" to the host. But I have no illusions about changing things - just venting :)

     
    John Z, Jul 24, 2004
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  4. Hi John,

    A cheap alternative is to get an MSDN OS subscription. Each OS can be used
    for development/testing purposes. I can't remember a price off-hand but I
    know it's cheap comparatively

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    http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
    tutorial site :)
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    here
    Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any
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    individual developer. I liked the idea of a clean VM to test new
    installations on but not at $120+ a pop! It seems to me that, since the
    connectivity of VPC is limited (no USB devices requiring drivers, etc. that
    there is limited independent operation of the VM and the host. Therefore a
    more reasonable approach would be for the VM XP activation to "reach
    through" to the host. But I have no illusions about changing things - just
    venting :)
     
    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Jul 25, 2004
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    Tim Tanner Guest

    I suspect 'read the EULA' is the right legal answer. I am not a lawyer,
    but reading it, I can't see it's allowed. Specifically, My copy of the
    EULA says: "You may install, use, access, display and run _ONE_ copy of
    the Product on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or
    other device." (emphasis on ONE is mine, not MS's!) I'm not a lawyer,
    but I'll bet MS lawyers would argue that your host and guest are not a
    single computer. So the legal answer is no.

    There is, of course, the less legitimate answer(s). Yes, there certainly
    are easy ways you could do this (the proof is left as an exercise for
    the reader). I do not advocate them, despite their alleged usefulness.

    It would be useful for Microsoft to clarify this in future EULAs as well
    as in the KB. A Google reveals
    http://download.microsoft.com/documents/uk/licensing/basics/briefs/downlo
    ads/server-software-vme.doc, but this only covers the licensing of
    server products.


    Tim
     
    Tim Tanner, Jul 25, 2004
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  6. In the Windows Server 2003 EULA there is a line:
    An
    additional license is required if you install another copy
    of the Server Software on the same Server (whether in a
    separate partition, by using server emulation software, or
    otherwise) or to install or run a copy of the Server
    Software on a different Server (for example, a Server
    employed for backup or fail-over support).

    We'll see if that makes it into the next Windows desktop version

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    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Jul 25, 2004
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    Scott Baker Guest

    You also don't have to activate the Guest if you're just using it for
    testing. Yes, this means it won't work forever and you'd have to
    reinstall.

    I prefer the MSDN solution myself.

    Scott
     
    Scott Baker, Jul 26, 2004
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  8. Are you sure on that one?

    I mean legally, not logistically

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    http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
    tutorial site :)
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    here
    Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any
    emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them.
     
    Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP], Jul 26, 2004
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    Scott Baker Guest

    I made no claim it was legal. And I'm sure that Microsoft
    lawyers would say it is not no matter what the wording of
    the license says. As you mentioned, it's purely a legal
    issue rather than a technical/logistical issue.

    I still say your suggestion for the MSDN OS subscription
    is the way to go.

    Scott
     
    Scott Baker, Jul 27, 2004
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