XP Vista - What am I missing?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by JDB, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. JDB

    JDB Guest

    This should not be this difficult! However, 3 weeks later and I'm still not
    connecting. It seems I've tried about every suggestion I can find. I will
    attempt to recapitulate in brief but I'm sure I have forgotten things I've
    tried.
    I have 2 and printer to a router. One wireless one direct. Another wireless
    xp occasionally. Works great no problem. I am trying to get just one to
    connect to the Vista. The Vista has been tried both wireless and cable to
    router.
    Installed the XP responder patch. Created users with identical names and
    passwords. Configured NetBios on Vista. Turned off and on TCP layer 6.
    Re-setup networking, same workgroup. Enabled sharing, etc. Only windows
    firewall, tried both off and on. There is likely more but I have forgotten
    now.
    They are visible on each others full maps and they ping each other fine. On
    the XP when I select the Vista pc I get not accessible, no permission. On
    Vista I cannot see the XP except in full map view.
    Maybe it's something simple but I am stumped.
     
    JDB, Jan 14, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

    I don't have any network at home therefore I will try from memory. At the
    office it is a different ballgame.

    Forget NetBios. the software will do its job even if NetBios misses its.

    I think your Network discovery should be ON.
    File Sharing ON.
    Public Folder Sharing ON.
    Printer sharing -- depends (if you have a printer, then ON)
    Password Protected sharing OFF

    This should give you pretty much an access to public folders from XP into
    Vista.

    In order to access folders other than Public you will have to SHARE them at
    Vista and indicate the user you want to have assess rights. It is
    recommended to give access to a group, not an individual user and "All
    Users" should be excluded.
     
    AlexB, Jan 15, 2008
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  3. JDB

    JDB Guest

    I did all those things. Those were some of the first things I did. NetBios
    came later as it was a possible solution I read about.
     
    JDB, Jan 15, 2008
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    Mick Murphy Guest

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

    Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
    How to give Permissions are there, too.
    If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.

    1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
    the SAME.

    In Vista Network and Sharing:

    Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

    Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

    File Sharing: ON

    Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
    Docs)

    Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
    passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
    asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
    from an XP computer.

    Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard.
     
    Mick Murphy, Jan 15, 2008
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  5. JDB

    AlexB Guest

    Another thing I could think of is that these problems seem to be wireless
    routers related for the most part as I can see from many other posts. I will
    now focus my attention on it but from what I recall if they have a router
    they can see thru it their XP machines but Vista cannot see them or
    something.

    Could it be that you are using old routers of pre Vissta generation and
    there is something wrong with their ability to handle the signals? Could it
    be also related to the new Network cards makers are installing on new Vista
    machines? Could it be that these new cards do not want to talk to old
    routers. Could it be an unconscious desire for the makers of the cards and
    routers to force the users to upgrade the entire network? An unconscious in
    the sense that making sure that the Network card will be both XP and Vista
    compatible is an additional hassle. Perhaps it is more on a conscious level?

    It is probably pointless to analyze but the net result is: maybe you need a
    new router and what?
     
    AlexB, Jan 15, 2008
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  6. JDB

    JDB Guest

    You are correct that the router is older. However it had no problem with
    allowing the Vista machine to connect to the internet either wireless or
    cabled. And it does see the XP machine in full map view.
     
    JDB, Jan 15, 2008
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  7. JDB

    JDB Guest

    I have already done all this. But I re-checked and did it again. Made no
    difference. Internet connection through the router is fine and can still see
    the xp in full map view but nowhere else.
     
    JDB, Jan 15, 2008
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  8. JDB

    alexB Guest

    At the office I do have a LAN although not wireless. My Vista connects to
    other Vistas with no problem, like it is one computer. However, on one
    machine I do have two partitions and one of them is Win2K. When my secretary
    switches to that I still can connect but I have to go thru so many motions,
    giving passwords, etc that I often give up and ask her to switch to Vista.
     
    alexB, Jan 15, 2008
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  9. JDB

    alexB Guest

    OK, one more idea. You should check your Windows Firewall Settings. There is
    an option under Change Settings. t says: Block all incoming connections.
    Kind of a long shot given the fact that you do see you computer layouts but
    still.
     
    alexB, Jan 15, 2008
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  10. JDB

    JDB Guest

    I did this too. Thanks for trying to help out on this. Frustration set in and
    I downloaded and installed a trial of Network Magic. Set up and FULLY
    connected in minutes! How can this be? Microsoft can't get their own systems
    to recognize each other. And vista has been out for a year. This is really
    bizarre. I've been running my own and helping others with their computers for
    long enough to know something ain't right here.
    Oh well, I do appreciate those who tried to help on this.
     
    JDB, Jan 15, 2008
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