XP wont see Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by sdsuromero, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. sdsuromero

    sdsuromero Guest

    I own a XP Home desktop and my friend owns a Vista Home Premium laptop. My PC
    is connected to a wireless router (Belkin Wireless G Router) through a
    Ethernet cable and my friends laptop is connected wireless. We both connect
    to the internet. His Vista laptop is able to see my PC through his network
    places but is unable to play my music through iTunes. My XP computer is
    unable to see anything of his. We have tried turning off all firewalls and
    turning on all sharing but nothing has worked. All we want to be able to do
    is connect to a LAN game and be able to share our music through iTunes.

    I already have the LLTD update.
    Both are same workgroup name

    I hope someone can help I have been trying to figure this out all week.
     
    sdsuromero, Aug 24, 2007
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  2. sdsuromero

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    This problem is frequently caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal
    firewall, or in consistent NetBT setting.
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

    There are several more gotchas, that Vista may present you with.
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

    Or let's look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
    server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and diagnose the
    problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
    precisely (download browstat!):
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Aug 24, 2007
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  3. sdsuromero

    Mick Murphy Guest

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx

    Have you tried the following:
    In Vista Networking and Sharing:
    1 Network Discovery ON
    2 File Sharing ON
    3 Public Folder Sharing ON
    4 Password Protected OFF
    5 and the Network should be set to “Privateâ€

    And have you made sure that the workgroup names are the same on XP and Vista.
    By default XP is MSHOME and Vista is WORKGROUP; they should be the same.
    Also "Shared Docs" in XP is called "Public Folder" in Vista
     
    Mick Murphy, Aug 24, 2007
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  4. sdsuromero

    davey_griffo Guest

    Is there a simple walkthrough for connecting a small home network? I have a
    similar setup: Belkin router connected to net. Desktop with Vista & a USB
    network dongle, & Centrino equipped laptop running XP. I've tried running the
    network wizard from the Vista Machine, but the XP machine said it had no
    settings, or none it could find. Running the wizrd from the XP machine, it
    said I had no removable media. It obviously doesn't recognise USB keydrives.

    I don't see me using a network much, but I would still be interested in
    setting it up, even if only as a geeky exercise. :)
     
    davey_griffo, Aug 24, 2007
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  5. sdsuromero

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    Davey,

    The Microsoft reference document is the best simple walk through. It covers
    issues relevant to Vista specifically.
    <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx>
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx

    My tutorial covers more issues, including some which have been discovered here,
    as problems.
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html

    What seems simple to some folks won't be that to everybody. Computer networking
    is NOT simple - it is damn complicated. Follow some of the links through my
    blog, and you should get a feel for the complication level.

    But read what you can, and ask questions. That's how this forum works best.
    People asking questions, and other people answering questions. And not the same
    people every time either.

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Aug 25, 2007
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  6. sdsuromero

    davey_griffo Guest

    Perhaps I should elaborate a little then, Chuck, so you have a better idea of
    what I'm trying to acheive.

    The setup above is connected to an ADSL modem, and allows each machine,
    individually or at the same time, to access the internet. Basically, they act
    as 2 individual machines, bandwidth sharing.

    What I'm trying to do is link them together into a mini network, so I can
    move files back & forth, or play private multiplayer games. I'm not sure I
    like the idea of sharing, as I thought that as soon as you open that up, you
    open up your machine to the rest of the web.

    As I said above, I tried running the wizards on each of the different OS's,
    but each wasn't happy with the other, & XP's idealy wanted a floppy,
    something that's not been fitted for years, and certainly not in my 14"
    notebook PC.

    Which should I be using. XP's as the lowest, common denominator, or Vista's
    as the most recent, and presumabbly most compatible, & how do I get them to
    talk to each other?
     
    davey_griffo, Aug 27, 2007
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  7. sdsuromero

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    Davey,

    IMHO, Vista and XP are quite capable of co existing, and sharing, quite well.
    You simply have to deal with a few more details. The wizards aren't necessary,
    and in some cases just make the job harder.

    If the computers are connected through the router, then they are reasonably
    safe, and are not open to the rest of the web. If they both have Internet
    connectivity, then part of the job is done already.

    Why not look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
    server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, and see what needs to
    be done next. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
    precisely (download browstat!):
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

    And read my tutorial (cited above).

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Aug 27, 2007
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    davey_griffo Guest

    Davey,
    Whoa there bud, all that stuff in quotes just went straight over my head I'm
    afraid. Not a clue what you just said. I've a fair bit of computer knowledge,
    but not much on networking, I'm afraid. Whenever I've set one up before, the
    setup programs and wizards have always worked for me. Now they're struggling,
    quite frankly so am I.

    If those to links are in laymans terms, & show you where to find everything,
    I'll be ok. Otherwise, I could do with the ijits version. :)
     
    davey_griffo, Aug 28, 2007
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  9. sdsuromero

    Chuck [MVP] Guest

    OK, we'll take it the slow way.

    Start by running "ipconfig /all" from a command window, on each computer.
    <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html>
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html

    --
    Cheers,
    Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
    http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
    Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
    My email is AT DOT
    actual address pchuck mvps org.
     
    Chuck [MVP], Aug 28, 2007
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