ZA beta firewall for Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by CZ, Mar 22, 2007.

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    CZ Guest

    CZ, Mar 22, 2007
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    Victek Guest

    Victek, Mar 22, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    FYI:

    I just loaded it into a clean install of Vista Business.

    It is very similar to the old ZA free as an initial impression.

    I am impressed.
     
    CZ, Mar 22, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    FWIW, this beta is called ZoneAlarm Antivirus, although there is mentiona firewall in the known issues list.

    Victek:

    No, it is called ZoneAlarm for Vista, and the AV feature is an option that I
    did not install
     
    CZ, Mar 22, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    Victek:

    I just reviewed it (it is in another vol) and it is referred to by three
    titles in different places:
    ZoneAlarm
    ZoneAlarm Security
    ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

    And per the web site: "Welcome to the technical beta launch of the new
    ZoneAlarm for Vista"


    Previous posts:
    Victek:

    No, it is called ZoneAlarm for Vista, and the AV feature is an option that I
    did not install
     
    CZ, Mar 22, 2007
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    B. Nice Guest

    You mean there is a ZA version for Vista now? - Thank you for warning
    us.
     
    B. Nice, Mar 22, 2007
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    Victek Guest

    Thanks for the clarification. I'd be interested to hear what you think
    after you've tested it.
     
    Victek, Mar 22, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    I'd be interested to hear what you think after you've tested it.

    Vectek:

    I did not do my usual port scan and packet sniffing testing of the f/w as it
    is still in beta.
    However, I did spend some time becoming familiar with the program.

    Some thoughts:
    IMO, the beta is for the ZA Suite program, which includes: ZA f/w, AV, and
    Malware protection.
    There is no indication what features ZA free will include.
    The program interface will be familiar to current ZA users
    If you like ZA in previous op systems, you should like it in Vista.

    Overall, I was impressed.
     
    CZ, Mar 23, 2007
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    Victek Guest

    Do you think it's stable enough to rely on at this point? Also, can the
    antivirus and antispyware components be disabled (or not installed) as I
    really only want the firewall?

    I'm currently using PC Tools Firewall Plus 2.0 (out of beta) on Vista
    Business and it works quite well, but I'm more familiar with ZA and will
    probably switch to it eventually.
     
    Victek, Mar 23, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    Do you think it's stable enough to rely on at this point? Also, can the
    antivirus and antispyware components be disabled (or not installed) as I
    really only want the firewall?

    I'm currently using PC Tools Firewall Plus 2.0 (out of beta) on Vista
    Business and it works quite well, but I'm more familiar with ZA and will
    probably switch to it eventually.

    Victek:

    I would not recommend running the ZA beta on anything other than a test
    computer, and then only if behind a NAT-router.
    IMO, CheckPoint has some work to do on the program.
    I did not like some of the defaults/initial settings.
    I installed it w/o ZA's AV, and installed the aVast AV program.
    I ran it with Vista's f/w enabled; ZA had a setting enabled whose purpose
    was to disabled the Vista f/w, but for some reason it did not do it. As I
    said, the beta needs some work.

    I would stay with PC Tools with Vista's f/w enabled. That is my normal
    setup for my test computer.
     
    CZ, Mar 23, 2007
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    Ravynne Guest

    I have just downloaded the zonealarm, however it will not install.. it starts
    to install but then it starts searching for previous installs and just froze
    up.. I tried several times and had to reboot because it froze the entire
    computer.. I have never had that happen before.. I guess Ill wait a while
    longer.. Running vista home premium 32bit.
     
    Ravynne, Mar 23, 2007
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    Ravynne Guest

    Ok never mind, I just checked and its for antivirus only.. even the
    downloaded file says ZA_AV Which usually means AntiVirus... Thanks but its
    not a firewall..
     
    Ravynne, Mar 23, 2007
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  13. It certainly does contain a firewall. I installed it about 6 hours ago.

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    Regards,

    Richard Urban MVP
    Microsoft Windows Shell/User
     
    Richard Urban, Mar 23, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    Ok never mind, I just checked and its for antivirus only.. even the
    downloaded file says ZA_AV Which usually means AntiVirus... Thanks but its
    not a firewall..

    Ravynne:

    It includes ZA f/w, AV s/w, and malware s/w.


    From my previous post:
    I just reviewed it (it is in another vol) and it is referred to by three
    titles in different places:
    ZoneAlarm
    ZoneAlarm Security
    ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

    And per the web site: "Welcome to the technical beta launch of the new
    ZoneAlarm for Vista"
     
    CZ, Mar 24, 2007
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    Robert Moir Guest

    I just don't see the market for ZA in vista. NVidia and ATI already have the
    "Random crashing" market covered with the quality of their Vista drivers at
    the moment, and Symantec AV has the "total waste of space that claims to
    improve your security somehow" angle sewn up.
     
    Robert Moir, Mar 24, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    I just don't see the market for ZA in vista. NVidia and ATI already have"Random crashing" market covered with the quality of their Vista drivers at
    the moment, and Symantec AV has the "total waste of space that claims to
    improve your security somehow" angle sewn up.

    Robert:

    So what do you propose for outbound control firewalling of programs in
    Vista?
     
    CZ, Mar 24, 2007
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    Robert Moir Guest

    Waking up and realising its a total waste of your time? Or sticking with the
    built in product, which is as good a toy firewall as any other toy firewall?
     
    Robert Moir, Mar 24, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    So what do you propose for outbound control firewalling of programs in
    Waking up and realizing its a total waste of your time? Or sticking with the
    built in product, which is as good a toy firewall as any other toy firewall?

    Robert:

    Have you tried to configure Vista's f/w for outbound control?

    Do you understand the difference between the method used by Vista and by ZA
    to handle outbound control?

    What do you consider to not be a toy f/w?

    TIA
     
    CZ, Mar 24, 2007
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    Robert Moir Guest

    Something that doesn't run on the host that it's trying to protect and hence
    absolutely cannot *guarantee* any kind of proper outbound filtering no
    matter what you do would be a decent start.
     
    Robert Moir, Mar 25, 2007
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    CZ Guest

    What do you consider to not be a toy f/w?

    Something that doesn't run on the host that it's trying to protect and hence
    absolutely cannot *guarantee* any kind of proper outbound filtering no
    matter what you do would be a decent start.

    Robert:

    Valid point, except for pragmatics.

    I have used MS's ISA product, and have complained loudly about using the
    MS's Small Business Server product with ISA running on the SBS server, when
    ISA should be on a dedicated perimeter device!

    But, it is not practical to expect end users to run a dedicated proxy server
    or to be knowledgeable of their details. Therefore, we have "toy" f/ws
    that IMO do provide value, even though they are less than ideal.

    Also, users may not be willing to take a dedicated proxy server to a WiFi
    hotspot.


    Re: absolutely cannot *guarantee* any kind of proper outbound filtering no
    matter what you do

    You expectations are higher than mine. IMO, all software is suspect to some
    degree eventually, that is why one should have multiple backups.
     
    CZ, Mar 25, 2007
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